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clevermanka ([personal profile] clevermanka) wrote2004-08-25 12:39 pm

Public Service Announcement

To all women (and, I suppose, some men): If your job entails serving the public in a professional manner--excluding those who exchange money for sexual favors--it is not acceptable to wear spaghetti-strap tank tops with no bra while working at your place of business. This goes double if you are over the age of 30. If you're over the age of 50, I shouldn't even have to be pointing this out (so to speak) but there you go. It's called a bra, ladies. Make use of it.

Crossposted to [livejournal.com profile] danger_army

[identity profile] amazingrich.livejournal.com 2004-08-25 11:59 am (UTC)(link)
I suppose this would be a really bad time to relate the story about the bagle shop, the girl that wore tanks and the bagles on the bottom shelf?

I'll never understand women and bras. For instance, why are they required if they're already in the "ideal" shape? If bras are trying to make one more sexually desirable, how can not wearing be too "slutty" of a look. I just don't understand.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2004-08-25 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure how to put this delicately...let's say: You don't have quite the problem area she did.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2004-08-25 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
how can not wearing be too "slutty" of a look

The issue in this particular circumstance was not that of sluttiness. cough And a woman with breasts any larger than an A or B cup will not maintain her "ideal" shape for long if she goes about braless all the time.

The concept of a bra to enhance sex appeal is wholly reliant on the type of bra and clothing worn over it. A basic support bra with minimal or no padding, worn under a tee shirt is not going to produce the same result as a push-up lace-encrusted number worn under a mesh bodysuit.

As for why bras are generally required in the general (Western) social scheme of things: A good percentage of the population finds young, perky titties bouncing around in joyful abandon quite pleasant. But Not Work Appropriate. Similarly, a good percentage of the population finds aged, sagging mammaries sloshing about not so pleasant. And also Not Work Appropriate. Solution to both problems? B-r-a.

It's not that I'm against going about au naturel. I still do it quite often, yes, even in public. But not at the office, and not in a thin, revealing tank top.

Boobs. I love talking about boobs.

[identity profile] amazingrich.livejournal.com 2004-08-25 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
And a woman with breasts any larger than an A or B cup will not maintain her "ideal" shape for long if she goes about braless all the time.


Possibly not work safe (if, for example breastfeeding isn't worksafe) http://www.007b.com/bra_sagging.php.
http://www.brafree.org/bffaqssagging.htm, etc.

Also, I have some books at home written by MDs that also say that bras don't help prevent sagging.


[identity profile] stimps.livejournal.com 2004-08-25 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
1) Bras are only to make one look sexually desirable in certain cases. The majority of bras are to keep ones breasts from flying around.

2) Flying around breasts hurt, especially when running up or down stairs.

3) I haven't read any books that say bras don't prevent sagging.

I ran out of numbers. But anyhoo, if I wanted some waitress' breasts in my pasta, I'd ask for some knobs on the side.

[identity profile] amazingrich.livejournal.com 2004-08-25 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The book is at home, but I found this on the web:
1991 Researchers in Japan published a study on bras and sagging, in which they proved that a bra can actually increase breast sagging, rather than the opposite. This effect was most noticeable in larger breasted women. They compared bras to foot binding in their discussion section. ("Breast Form Changes Resulting From A Certain Brassiere" Journal of Hum. Ergol.(Tokyo) 1990 Jun; 19(1):53-62. Ashizawa K, Sugane A, Gunji T Institute of Human Living Sciences, Otsuma Women's University, Tokyo, Japan)

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2004-08-25 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd like to know where they found these "larger breasted women" in Japan...

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2004-08-25 02:45 pm (UTC)(link)
On the way to class Monday, [livejournal.com profile] adamaker and I passed a young person with vast mammaries jogging through our neighborhood. It was rather mesmerizing, really, because she was not wearing a jog-bra. Looked painful, too. I suspect those strap-it-in numbers are very popular among the generously proportioned while participating in activities. Must've been a beginning jogger....

Chris

[identity profile] motherteresatoo.livejournal.com 2004-08-25 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
.... aged, sagging mammaries sloshing about ....

oh gosh...I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.

[identity profile] amazingrich.livejournal.com 2004-08-25 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
"A mistaken popular belief maintains that wearing a bra strengthns your breasts and prevents sagging. But you sag because of the proportion of fat and tissue in your breasts, and no bra changes that". -- Dr Susan M. Love, M.D., Dr. Susans Love's Breast Book.

"Susan M. Love, M.D., M.B.A., author, teacher, surgeon, researcher and activist, is on the faulty of UCLA School of Medicine, and Medical Director of the Susan Love M.D. Breast Cancer Foundation, a non-profit organization dedicated to the eradication of breast cancer (www. susanlovemd.com)"

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2004-08-26 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sure you can find arguments for either side. However, from personal experience I know that if I go braless for a full day, by the end of the day, the skin at the top of my breasts (right above my pectorals) is quite sore and stretched feeling. Like a very mild version of an Indian burn. If that's not an indication of skin stress, I'm not sure what it is.

[identity profile] amazingrich.livejournal.com 2004-08-26 09:48 am (UTC)(link)
I have no personal experience in this area, but so many women just assume that bras help without there being (as far as I've heard) any evidence that it does. I like to bring it up so that they at least consider the possibility that maybe it's an urban myth. Plus I like the braless look and I have a secret conspiracy to warp the world for my own pleasure :-).

And in that vein let me mention that some "researchers" believe that bras are harmful.


[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2004-08-26 09:50 am (UTC)(link)
I think this just goes to show that every body is different. While I love to go braless occasionally (and the BF doesn't mind it either), after about four hours, it's an absolute joy to put a bra on again. Meanwhile, I know women who are much larger-breasted than me who have never worn one and never will.

shrug

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/kai_/ 2004-08-26 11:56 am (UTC)(link)
That's the coolest thing I've read in ages.
I wonder if I go bra-free, my boobies will start to be a bit perkier.

And here I thought my only option was surgery.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2004-08-26 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] rumplestimpskin doesn't post or comment very often, but when she does she makes it count. ;) Don'tcha love her?

[identity profile] adammaker.livejournal.com 2004-08-30 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Not Work Appropriate -> Really distracting.

So what rules has OSHA established for the control of free-range boobies?
(apologies to somethingpositve.net) http://www.warehouse23.com/item.cgi?SP1004BL

Stop the sloshing!
Support your friends!

Surf out those boobies!

[identity profile] adammaker.livejournal.com 2004-08-31 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
On the WickedWorldWideWeb, duh!