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clevermanka ([personal profile] clevermanka) wrote2022-07-10 08:08 am

Country music

I mentioned to [personal profile] nnozomi recently that I used to be pretty active in the rockabilly scene although I don't listen to it anymore because it's emotionally painful. ๐Ÿ˜” There's a lot of crossover between rockabilly and country, though, and I do still listen to a fair amount of country. She asked for some recs, so here we go!

I'm generally a like-and-let-like person, but I also support the idea that if you say you "don't like country music" or "don't like rap" you've maybe got some bigoted tendencies you might want to examine. I go a little easier on the country music thing since country music has had its own bigoted problems for the last two decades and I get why people have an animosity toward it now, especially if they weren't into it before 2001 (fuck you, Toby Keith and your ilk). But country music can be amazing and a lot of fun. I love country music's history of support for the working class, humor, and easy harmonies. So if you've never been able to get into country but those sound like good things to you, too, here are some suggestions to help you start your own search.

I especially like what's referred to as the Bakersville sound, popularized by Buck Owens in the 40s. Try There Goes My Heart, Act Naturally, or Tiger by the Tail. A few modern bands have run with this style and my favorite one in the 90s, The Derailers (not as active anymore alas) put out some amazing songs. Bar Exam is a great example of the witty lyrics frequent in country music. No One to Talk to but the Blues is also one of my faves that incorporates some do-wop and 60s rock influence. Lies, Lies, Lies is more straight-up country and I still love singing that high harmony line.

Of course everybody knows (and hopefully loves) Dolly Parton and Patsy Cline, but there were some other women making their own waves in old country music. One of my favorites is Charlene Arthur who is a little more rockabilly but her influence on Parton and Cline is indisputable. She didn't last very long in the music industry but my god her songs are something. Welcome to the Club, Just Look, Don't Touch, He's Mine, and Flash Your Diamonds are brilliant.

And then of course there's Johnny Cash, Hank Williams*, Roy Acuff, and Ray Price--all amazing contributors to early country. Music history inclined folks might pay special attention to Price. He had a huge influence on the genre when he popularized the 4/4 shuffle, helping to move country music away from its previous 2/4 to 4/4 timing (music theory video, not a song).

*Hank Williams I and III are good, I'm not such a fan of Hank II

The 90s put out some incredible country music and if Toby Keith et.al. hadn't poisoned the well after 9/11 we'd have a very different musical (and imo political) landscape in the US right now. Check out Faith Hill's This Kiss, Mary Chapin Carpenter's He Thinks He'll Keep Her, and of course Garth Brooks' 100% perfect Friends in Low Places. (Brooks deserves every industry award he's ever received, fight me).

It's harder these days to find country music songs and singers who don't toe the rah-rah USA line but they're out there. Of course there are The Chicks (Wide Open Spaces, Sleep at Night) who tanked their career after speaking against George Bush. Miranda Lambert is good (Mama's Broken Heart, White Trash). Thompson Square (I Got You, Trans Am) have stumbled a bit in popularity but I hope they'll find their footing again (I like every song on their debut album). I recently discovered Priscilla Block (Thick Thighs, Wish You Were the Whiskey) and I like her a lot.

No surprise it's harder to find modern country by dudes that isn't offensive or annoying. Please check out Orville Peck, though. I'm linking to his YouTube channel because everything he does is incredible. Dwight Yoakam is very popular and he does have a great sound but for some reason I've never warmed to him.

Anyway, I feel like that's enough to get someone started if they're interested in expanding their musical palate to include country music. I know I've left out a lot of names so please share if you've got some faves yourself.

eta: I checked out the Miranda Lambert radio playlist and so far it's pretty great. I realize the algorithm probably gives everybody a slightly different mix, but of the first ten songs four are already in my Spotify likes.
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[personal profile] msmitti 2022-07-10 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
What a great list! I loved 90's country, and though I knew the PR nightmare with Toby Keith changed things, I never really thought about what country music might be like now if that hadn't happened. Actually, I'm not even sure what 2020s country music sounds like because I don't listen to the "radio" anymore, which was where I found music back in the day.

Can I add Chris LeDoux to your list? I love his more mellow stuff, like "the ride" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT0NjGMDYhE) and "riding for a fall" or "Western skies" but he has some great upbeat songs too, like "Whatcha gonna do with a cowboy?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICtlA7LfOlY or "hooked on an 8 second ride."

I always wanted to (partner) dance to Sawyer Brown's cover of "the race is on" but it was a line dance so there were no partners to be had. Also, I didn't have the dancing skills at the time. *sigh* I miss partner dancing a lot.

I used to have a CD I made of old country songs that I made from a list I found somewhere. I should find it, but that was where I discovered Roseanne Cash (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miIqI9Gql9M) and "it wasn't god who made honkytonk angels" by Kitty Wells (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKleTa94dC8).

I was a latecomer to 80s country which I was sort of aware of as it was happening, but I appreciate it more as an adult.

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[personal profile] msmitti 2022-07-11 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
For the record, you always were my favorite follow.
It's because you were such a fantastic lead!!
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[personal profile] redheadfae 2022-07-12 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
OOh, "The Race is On" is a perfect "country music lyrics rock!" example, and I hadn't heard Sawyer Brown's version! I know, I know, I'm old, lol, I just love George Jones. No one wrote a more romantic line than: "kept some letters by his bed, dated 1962, he had underlined in red, every single I Love You." Tear-jerker. Nothing like an old country heartbreak, murder ballad, or revenge song to bring on the frisson.
I like your samples!
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[personal profile] wrote_and_writ 2022-07-10 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
This is great! I tend to go for the bluegrass-Americana-country mix, like Alison Krauss and Nickel Creek. You Will Be My Ain True Love from Cold Mountain gives me chills every time! The Secret Sisters, Sarah Jarosz, The Civil Wars -- these are my jams!

Back in the day, I used to go to Wednesday Ladies Nights at a bar called Pengilly's and they usually had The Jeremiah James Gang, a local band. Here's a kinda crappy video of his cover of "Idaho Cowboy" by Pinto Bennett (what a GREAT country singer name!) It's more honky tonk. Love it! My friend Sarah had such a huge crush on him (JJ, not Pinto Bennett).

The Dead South is a mood!

I think the very first CD I ever bought with my own money was Garth Brooks --"The Thunder Rolls" is such a jam! (I might have bought Harry Connick Jr first, but GB was right up there. A family I used to babysit for had his CDs.)

Anyway! Wow, I'm glad you posted this because it brought back some fond memories!
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[personal profile] wrote_and_writ 2022-07-10 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, thanks to this post, I'm getting some psychic whiplash going from Maneskin, which is what I was listening to, to a honky tonk playlist! :D Worth it!
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[personal profile] wrote_and_writ 2022-07-10 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Jeremiah James always played this in his shows :D My dad loved it, too. https://youtu.be/Sco_eBvXGTQ
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[personal profile] wrote_and_writ 2022-07-10 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG, I thought this song was so well known -- I think the songwriter set out to put every country music trope he could into the song. It's great!
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[personal profile] wrote_and_writ 2022-07-10 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I didnโ€™t really, either, but there was some country adjacent, like bluegrass and folk music. Although Dad did like the Whiskey For My Men/Beer For My Horses song because he thought it was hilarious.
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[personal profile] msmitti 2022-07-11 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
nowhere close to the same song, but the title reminded me of another song I liked: Radney Foster's "just call me lonesome" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PdcJvScgzM
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[personal profile] msmitti 2022-07-11 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
No, but that was amazing. Thank you for sharing.
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[personal profile] redheadfae 2022-07-12 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
AND IT'S THE FLIPPIN AMAZING impressions DAC does of every singer mentioned! And "Darlin'" has got to be a nod to Conway Twitty's Hello Darlin', I swear. David Allan Coe is indeed clever (albeit a bit problematic, truth).
He seems to do the most amazing impressions of country music legends in every song, and it fascinates me how well he does it.
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[personal profile] redheadfae 2022-07-17 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Great same songwriter addition, truly outlaw country:

Country deejays knows that I'm an outlaw
They'd never come to see me in this dive
Where bikers stare at cowboys who are laughing at the hippies
Who are praying they'll get outta here alive

The loud mouth in the corner's gettin' to me
Talking 'bout my earrings and my hair
I guess he ain't read the signs that say I been to prison
Someone ought to warn him 'fore I knock him off his chair

'Cause my long hair just can't cover up my red neck
I've won every fight, I've ever fought
Hey, I don't need some turkey telling me that I ain't country
And sayin' I ain't worth the damned ol' ticket that he bought

'Cause I can sing all them songs about Texas
And I still do all the sad ones that I know
They tell me, I look like Merle Haggard
And sound a lot like David Allen Coe

And the bar maid in the last town that we played in
Knew the words to every song I'd wrote
She said, Janine Rabbit (side note: co-writer of this song, yes, Eddie Rabbit's wife) turned her on to my last album
Just about the time the jukebox broke

Yeah, Johnny Cash helped me get out of prison
Long before Rodriguez stole that goat
I've been the Rhinestone Cowboy for so long, I can't remember
And I can do you every song Hank Williams ever wrote

And I can sing all them songs about Texas
And I still do all the sad ones that I know
I can't help it, I look like Merle Haggard
And I sound a lot like David Allen Coe

But the country deejays, all think I'm an outlaw
And they'd never come to see me in this dive
Where bikers stare at cowboys who are laughing at the hippies
Who are praying they'll get out of here alive
The loud mouth in the corner's gettin' to me
Talking 'bout my earrings and my hair..
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[personal profile] redheadfae 2022-07-11 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I never introduced you to this?! Maybe because DAC became so problematic, and it's from my biker days. But, The Ride is an all-time favorite of mine, so I look past him for the beauty of those two songs.

You know I'm a big Dwight Yoakam fan, and I really like Chris Stapleton these days, their rendition of Seven Spanish Angels moves me just as much as Willie Nelson and Ray Charles did.
And you turned me onto Ingrid Andress! Great fun!
My Very Old School country loves include Marty Robbins, Gunfighter Ballads and Trail Songs, and of course Waylon Jennings, Kris Kristofferson, et al.
There are excellent Black Country artists these days, they certainly deserve mention.
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[personal profile] salamandras 2022-07-10 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for taking the time to write and share this! I have limited exposure to country, mostly Johnny Cash and songs that ended up on pop radio, and I will definitely be checking these out.
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[personal profile] salamandras 2022-07-13 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I was hoping to listen to more of what you linked or mentioned before replying, which hasn't happened yet. Of those I listened to so far, I really liked and listened to a lot Orville Peck, especially Let Me Drown, which I happened to listen to first. I also enjoyed what you linked to for Charlene Arthur, Thompson Square, and Priscilla Block.

It's funny, since listening to a lot of what you linked to, I'm starting to recognize the hints of country (or more than hints?) in some of Cake's songs (probably my favorite band). Would you say that Cake's Sad Songs and Waltzes and Jesus Wrote a Blank Check count as country, or just influenced by country, or not country at all? (I just listened to Buck Owens before posting the comment and it reminds me of Cake's style in some of their songs a bit, although I may be way off base. I'll definitely be listening to more of him, too.)
Edited (for clarity in my question) 2022-07-13 00:48 (UTC)
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[personal profile] salamandras 2022-07-13 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! That makes sense. Over the last year I've become fascinated by how bands are categorized, either by the artists or their audience, so thank you for satisfying that hunger. :D
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[personal profile] nnozomi 2022-07-11 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, thank you for writing this up! It's great to have both recommendations and cultural context. So much to listen to! I've only tried a few so far...
What you called the "Bakersville sound," older and newer, sounds a lot more familiar than I'd have expected, from listening to jazz on the blues and/or Dixieland side; really kissing cousins ;). Charline Arthur too. "Relaxing" is probably the wrong word but I like the easy-going beat they seem to have.
The harmony on the chorus of "He Thinks He'll Keep Her" is great, and the lyrics are something else, I see what you mean.
"Thick Thighs" absolutely cracked me up!


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[personal profile] redheadfae 2022-07-12 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
I know a lot of people threw shade on Lil Nas X for Old Town Road, but that Superbowl ad was brilliant. I'm hearing so much rap in country lately, and yay for that instead of "Bro-Country"!
Some Old School country fans say lot of what happened to country is the chart cross-over, where most of what isn't bro country ends up being naught more than rock/pop with a Southern accent (side-eye at Keith Urban), but OTOH, damn if I didn't love a bunch of it, anyway, because it was getting out there. Then, I got tired real quick of "girl, dance on/get in..ma truck".
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[personal profile] redheadfae 2022-07-13 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Good points.
What I meant by that is rap artists are collaborating with country artists, like LL Cool J and Tim McGraw, Nelly and Tim McGraw, Nelly and Florida Georgia Line, and Kane Brown himself. Lil Nas X being booted was total BS (and probably homophobic, considering Cowboy Troy has made the cut); the Billboard executives may have shunned him but the fans didn't.

Hey, a side note, I came across this link about Black Female country artists while looking for female artists collabs besides H.E.R.
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[personal profile] redheadfae 2022-07-13 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Music and Art are the messengers!

And I don't know how I mixed up that link for the Superbowl ad, I was sending the Wiz Khalifa song to someone else. Oops.
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[personal profile] kazoogrrl 2022-07-13 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Late to the game, but as an adult I have eaten a big piece of humble pie over the fact that I now enjoy Dwight Yoakum when I despised him as a teen, probably because he was my mom's favorite. There was also a lot of country from the 70s and 80s played around my house, and the first concert my parents took me to was Willy Nelson when I was just a kid.

I was listening to a lot of country and bluegrass in the late 90s/early 00s, as well as what fell under alt country at the time. I have some great mix CDs/tapes from a mail exchange that I need to convert into playlists. A couple of my favs are The Handsome Family (saw them play in a TINY club without ever hearing them before, the best way to discover music) and 16 Horsepower. I do ignore anything about the singer from 16 Horsepower because he's a conservative Christian, but the music is fire. I had the good fortune to see them open for Morphine around 1998, it was a great combo. I also like Whiskeytown and Ryan Adams' first album, though he's trash.