Disappointed but I suppose not surprised

[clevermanka]

Heyyyyyyyy for those not on Twitter, thought you should know one of Dremwidth's founders is against EndOTWRacism and is also spreading misinformation about people like Stitch and Rukmini Pande who've been doing work on fighting racism in fandom for a decade or more.

So that's fun.

ETA: If you're going "hmm, well but she makes some good points in that thread" please read naye's excellent rebuttal. If you feel like this isn't your battle, you're wrong (neutrality supports the oppressor). If you like things fine the way they are, where non-white fans are constantly having to deal with this violence, and fear rocking the boat or making people (including yourself) comfortable, please examine your priorities.

Comments

[mecurtin]

Her statement about it is here. Everything is complicated & Twitter is bad at complicated is my takeaway, but I haven't dedicated the spoons to parsing everything out yet. Since some of it seems to be intra-POC issues I'm inclined to back away carefully ...

[no_detective]

instead of backing away, there's the option to learn? here is a possible starting point. also i'd warmly recommend reading stitch's work before believing any of the racist crap about them (it's been going on for years, it's not as complicated as some would like us to believe, & there's never a shred of evidence of harassment or bullying they've allegedly done - it's quite possible to present evidence without putting anyone in danger, and that post is only so much eloquent bullshit).

there are very few fandom scholars/activists who write about racism; both stitch and dr. pande have been quoted in pretty much any discussion of fandom racism bc no other scholars have done as much work on the subject - they are the experts. INTERESTINGLY, both of them have experienced harassment, abuse, and been on the receiving end of excessive victimhood performances by racists in fandom and all the accompanying toxic rumors. that's a common tactic of white supremacy; it doesn't make the malicious gossip about them true. rahaeli/synecdochic is spouting the very same hateful shit that's been circulating about stitch on FFA for years, which should be concerning to any of us using DW. and btw, dumping on an antiracist movement bc it quotes the work of one black person she doesn't like? that's racism 101.

(sorry clevermanka, apparently i'm still fucking furious about today's shitshow...)

[naye]

Yes please listen to no_detective who said it all better than I could!!

[clevermanka]

No apologies! Your response has a lot more receipts than mine, so thank you.

[clevermanka]

Yes, lots of things are complicated, but anyone who makes a point of stating they don't support the EndOTWRacism movement (which I assume you do, based on your use of the icon) does not get my benefit of the doubt. Also there's nothing to parse about her dislike of the the movement's objectives. She says right there that she doesn't agree with them because they were at least inspired by people she, for some reason, doesn't like. She might have good points regarding the CSEM stuff, but why bring in EndOTWRacim's objectives into that argument? They're two different things and conflating them is irresponsible at best, manipulative at worst.

Backing away carefully instead of calling out a white person for their lack of support for an anti-racism movement (based on their dislike of a person who had no hand in forming the movement) is a cop out.