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clevermanka) wrote2006-08-09 12:54 pm
clevermanka) wrote2006-08-09 12:54 pm
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Hello, my name is Lydia and I like sex
A recent post on the ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
bellydancing community (it's a locked post, sorry non-members) made reference to the fact that a girl's bellydance teacher said when bellydancing came to North America, "it was turned into something more sexual as opposed to beautiful"--and that's where Cabaret and Tribal styles came from. OK, historical innaccuracies aside, I just have to say what the fucking hell is wrong with people?
I don't have a beef with this girl (and maybe I'm giving her extra slack because her name is Lydia--heh), but boy oh boy would I like to have a few choice words with her dance teacher. What is it with people that they do not admit sex can be beautiful?
ARGH!
And then another girl posted a comment saying she thinks the dance "has always been objectifying women and AS OF LATE it is now becoming more identifiable as art." OK, now this chica I really would like to shake some sense into, but ... I just don't have the energy. I was even more confounded/horrified/angered when I went to her LJ page and there at the top are photos of, I shit you not, HER TITS. Um. I probably shouldn't have, but I commented to her comment with the following:
I was going to just leave it at "hmmmm," but after checking out your LJ page, I have to ask:
Your LJ main page features a photo at the top of your breasts in a low-cut top.
Your AOL IM name is SexyIbiza.
Your Skype name is sweet_lovergirl.
Your website is titled "Yes she is cute."
From this info, I gather that you're obviously proud of your face and figure. For that I would appaud you. I think it kicks ass when women are proud of their bodies. It doesn't happen nearly enough.
But you seem to have some contradictions with the way you present yourself and your disdain for what you see as previous incarnations of popular bellydance objectifying women. I'm curious how you reconcile these two points of view.
I probably should have left this alone, but I really am curious. What makes it OK for you to present yourself as a sexual creature, but not OK for the bellydancers of past years to do the same?
And regarding your last sentence: It hasn't really "always been entertainment for men," you know. If you look at old videos, there are lots of women in the audience, watching and clapping and appearing to enjoy the show just as much as the men. Is it OK for women to appreciate it, but not men? What about if the women are sexually attracted to the dancer? Does that put them into the same category as the men, and chastized for finding the sexual appeal of the dancer enjoyable?
We'll see what comes of that.
I mean, OK, I totally understand and agree with women who don't wish to be seen as nothing more than a hole to fuck. But why do women (and a few men) react so violently against the concept of a woman who enjoys her sexuality--who enjoys being seen as an incarnation of S-E-X? Human beings are sexual creatures, folks! Don't you get it? Some of us really like feeling, looking, and acting sexy.
And the people who want both sides of the fence make me even angrier. Oh, see my pretty face? See my perky boobies? Aren't I hawt? BUT DON'T YOU LOOK AT ME AS A SEX OBJECT YOU DIRTY MOTHERFUCKER OR I'LL RIP YOU A NEW ASSHOLE.
*shakes head*
Kids these days. I swear.
bellydancing community (it's a locked post, sorry non-members) made reference to the fact that a girl's bellydance teacher said when bellydancing came to North America, "it was turned into something more sexual as opposed to beautiful"--and that's where Cabaret and Tribal styles came from. OK, historical innaccuracies aside, I just have to say what the fucking hell is wrong with people?I don't have a beef with this girl (and maybe I'm giving her extra slack because her name is Lydia--heh), but boy oh boy would I like to have a few choice words with her dance teacher. What is it with people that they do not admit sex can be beautiful?
ARGH!
And then another girl posted a comment saying she thinks the dance "has always been objectifying women and AS OF LATE it is now becoming more identifiable as art." OK, now this chica I really would like to shake some sense into, but ... I just don't have the energy. I was even more confounded/horrified/angered when I went to her LJ page and there at the top are photos of, I shit you not, HER TITS. Um. I probably shouldn't have, but I commented to her comment with the following:
I was going to just leave it at "hmmmm," but after checking out your LJ page, I have to ask:
From this info, I gather that you're obviously proud of your face and figure. For that I would appaud you. I think it kicks ass when women are proud of their bodies. It doesn't happen nearly enough.
But you seem to have some contradictions with the way you present yourself and your disdain for what you see as previous incarnations of popular bellydance objectifying women. I'm curious how you reconcile these two points of view.
I probably should have left this alone, but I really am curious. What makes it OK for you to present yourself as a sexual creature, but not OK for the bellydancers of past years to do the same?
And regarding your last sentence: It hasn't really "always been entertainment for men," you know. If you look at old videos, there are lots of women in the audience, watching and clapping and appearing to enjoy the show just as much as the men. Is it OK for women to appreciate it, but not men? What about if the women are sexually attracted to the dancer? Does that put them into the same category as the men, and chastized for finding the sexual appeal of the dancer enjoyable?
We'll see what comes of that.
I mean, OK, I totally understand and agree with women who don't wish to be seen as nothing more than a hole to fuck. But why do women (and a few men) react so violently against the concept of a woman who enjoys her sexuality--who enjoys being seen as an incarnation of S-E-X? Human beings are sexual creatures, folks! Don't you get it? Some of us really like feeling, looking, and acting sexy.
And the people who want both sides of the fence make me even angrier. Oh, see my pretty face? See my perky boobies? Aren't I hawt? BUT DON'T YOU LOOK AT ME AS A SEX OBJECT YOU DIRTY MOTHERFUCKER OR I'LL RIP YOU A NEW ASSHOLE.
*shakes head*
Kids these days. I swear.