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clevermanka ([personal profile] clevermanka) wrote2011-08-10 08:16 am

Strained

Another punching lesson last night. This time with my fancy new gloves that fit!

Good news: Gloves don't slip and are very comfortable. Bad news: They fit so well, I punched hard enough and long enough that I strained my left hand and can barely grip with it. Typing and mousing suck pretty hard, too.

My left hand trembles when I hold it out flat. It's exhausted.

I wish I'd brought the book I'm reading to work. It's going to be a long day, staying off the keyboard.

some thoughts.

[identity profile] femfataleatron.livejournal.com 2011-08-10 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
There are a couple of schools about wearing gloves...
One says, "Wrap your hands!" "Wear the same gloves you would wear while boxing.." etc.
The other says, "Condition you hands slowly, over time to withstand the abuse",and "If you really have to hit someone, they won't wait for you to wrap up and put on gloves." etc.
I come from the other one. Tho there are great arguments on both sides, their main goal is to avoid injury.
The reason I belong to the "Rraw"school is: There are lots of different ways to hold your hand (besides in a fist) while hitting things. If your hands are wrapped and in gloves you limit these considerably.
Are you using bag work just for conditioning purposes? Or are you interested in practicing actually hitting things? Cause if it's the second then hand conditioning, and your approach to it is pretty important.
If not then, while your hands will get conditioned to a degree anyway, simply don't hit the bag so hard. Concentrate rather, on pulling your hands back into your guard as quickly as possible. Use light speedy hits rather than heavy ones. This will develop speed, which is much easier to turn to power than the reverse. (This approach works for both schools by the way...)

Re: some thoughts.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2011-08-10 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just using bag work as exercise. I bore easily with workout routines and this sounded fun and new.

I'm sure my hands are the weakest link here, and am not surprised they took the brunt of the workout. They'll get stronger! Just now it's pretty annoying.

Re: some thoughts.

[identity profile] femfataleatron.livejournal.com 2011-08-10 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Workout ADHD. I've kinna' got that too. it suks, 'cause there's no greater progress limiter. For the record Metabolic Confusion is Crap!!!

Re: some thoughts.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2011-08-10 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
there's no greater progress limiter

Which is a pity, because I am such a dilettante when it comes to exercise programs.

Re: some thoughts.

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2011-08-10 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think CR is planning to move on to streetfighting ;-)

For exercise, gloves are better because you can hit faster and harder, getting a better full-body workout because everything is fully engaged. We should point out that she's using proper sparring gloves (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00074TAWS/?tag=CSSF-20), not boxing gloves, so she can make a proper fist and condition her hands without injuring them: best of both worlds!

Re: some thoughts.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2011-08-10 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
she can make a proper fist and condition her hands without injuring them

Well. Without injuring them much.

Image (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chernobylred/6029061089/)

Re: some thoughts.

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2011-08-10 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Like and +1

Re: some thoughts.

[identity profile] femfataleatron.livejournal.com 2011-08-10 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm.. Using less equipment does not make muscles less engaged. For example, while shadow boxing it's necessary to decelerate your limbs (to keep them from dislocating) this requires more muscle engagement rather than less. Admittedly they are engaged differently, but try three minutes of shadow boxing versus the same on a bag...
Unprotected hands simply require a different force curve, similar to that of running barefoot. Palm strikes also use a different force curve as well. Padding and bags simply reduce the need to decelerate your limb, essentially reducing the eccentric component of the punch, but not buy a large amount.

Re: some thoughts.

[identity profile] femfataleatron.livejournal.com 2011-08-10 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
geddum!

Re: some thoughts.

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2011-08-10 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I hear you, but almost every time I've pulled a muscle or tweaked a joint in training has been from pulling a punch or kick. It's also unnatural and teaches you not to strike through the opponent. Y'know, if you're doing actual fight-prep.

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[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_luaineach/ 2011-08-10 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Rawr!

[identity profile] chronovore.livejournal.com 2011-08-10 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
YAY! A fellow bruised puncher. I am also still seeing fat yellow/purple bruises under my forearms from TWO FREAKING WEEKS AGO. And I also had that trembly thing. So not fun.

[identity profile] fitfool.livejournal.com 2011-08-11 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
cool...one of these days I'm going to take up boxing. I want to but I wear glasses and the idea of getting hit in the face while wearing glasses makes me flinch way too much. But I could at least learn to throw a punch. I always wanted to be able to throw a basic, solid punch. I hope I never need to but it would be nice to know I could.

Re: some thoughts.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2011-08-11 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
=D

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2011-08-11 01:14 pm (UTC)(link)
SOLIDARITY!!!!

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2011-08-11 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] mckitterick wears his glasses when he's working out with the heavy bag. I'm not sure what he did when he used to spar. It's been a while since he fought in competitions, though, so perhaps his eyes were still good enough to fight without any visual correction.

Punching is fun!