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clevermanka ([personal profile] clevermanka) wrote2012-11-15 10:01 am
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I've gone blind and deaf and all I know is rage

Apparently this thing called the 23rd Headquarters Special Troops existed during WWII. My questions are:

1. How did I never hear of it before?

and

2. Why have I never read an AU featuring some of my fave pairings working in it? I mean come on. The idea practically writes itself for my top two (Fraser/RayK and Sherlock/John). Hell, for Steve/Bucky it wouldn't even have to be AU (although this would be a fantastic AU for Clint/Natasha)

Speaking of WWII, has everyone seen this History of WWII, Facebook style? I love the brief appearances by Common Sense and Hindsight.

[identity profile] orrin.livejournal.com 2012-11-15 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I was aware of this, but had somehow forgotten! I had also somehow forgotten that amazing badge, which is the most amazing and which I need one of to sew onto my trenchcoat everything!

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-15 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
For real. That badge is THE BOMB. I want it on my everything, too.

[identity profile] saffronhare.livejournal.com 2012-11-15 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
My dad's a military historian. Gotta ask him about this!

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-15 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Lemme know what you find!

[identity profile] saffronhare.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Here's what he said: "Yes I did know about them. I had a whole lesson about them for my military history class. Pretty neat, huh. Can you imagine washing all those sheets?"

It look me a whole ten-count to figure out he was talking about the ghost outfit. My father is clearly 10x cooler than I am.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Ha ha ha! If that's your dad's sense of humor, I think we might get along well.

[identity profile] kira-snugz.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
i had not seen the facebook wwii.

loved the raf and the luftwaffe conversation.


there are pictures of some of the things that unit created floating around out there. I think cracked has mentioned the unit a couple times in various articles. They were very very good at what they did.

random family history - my grandpa ran into that unit... god knows where, but in europe during the war, he left it vague when he wrote it down just in case and never out and out names the unit, but he got to see them building an army out of nowhere and nothing. Said it was the most amazing bit of building he had ever seen, and only wrote about it 20 years later. My dad put all the pieces together last year after he got his hands on my grandpas military records and his full autobiography.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
That. Is. Awesome!!!!

[identity profile] carmy-w.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
This sort of reminds me of my great-uncle, who was stationed in the navy on one of the floating dry docks. Even now, you can hardly find any published information on them, but my second cousin has a book that was a limited publish run of 300 or so copies. I would absolutely LOVE to get my hands on a copy of it.

Those things were COOL. They were the reason why the US Navy took the Pacific. Shoot hell out of our ships, go on. But if they're still floating, we come, pick them up, fix them while transporting them to the next battle zone, and here they are, magically back in action! They were the biggest reason why the USS Enterprise earned it's nickname.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
They were the biggest reason why the USS Enterprise earned it's nickname.

I'm...just going to assume you're not talking about Star Trek here, which means I have no idea what you're talking about.

Image

[identity profile] carmy-w.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, no! The Enterprise was one of the first aircraft carriers built in the US! The Japanese announced they had sunk it three times during WWII, and it just kept. coming. BACK.

Hence the nickname-The Grey Ghost.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(CV-6)

Hope that link works; it pasted funky, so I fixed the text.
But if you google it, it will pop up!

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

[identity profile] grnvixen.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't remember that there was a unit specifically for this sort of thing but there was a MASSIVE deception of fake troups, tanks, etc. setup for D-Day. It was obivous the Allies were going to invade, but where. The deception was successfull enough that even after our guys were hitting the beaches in Normandy enough of Hitler's general staff believed it was a feint and the real invasion was still coming somewhere else so at least a battalion (my memory is fuzzy there, might have been more) was kept out of Normandy for a critical few days. I think it was the OSS tho that floated the body with fake ID and locked briefcase with misinformation to further confuse the issue.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
See, that story just makes me want that AU story EVEN MORE.

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't realize that was it's own division! And with the awesomest patch ever! Also, what is AU?

The Facebook WWII is fabu!

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
AU = Alternate Universe

I'm seriously thinking of recreating that patch. If I do, you and [livejournal.com profile] orrin each get one, too.

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny, SF scholars don't use that acronym!

Hooray, I get a patch of awesome!

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I bet the SF scholars who read slash use it.

[identity profile] carmy-w.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw this too! AWESOME!

[identity profile] adammaker.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Ghost Army book...
http://www.npr.org/books/titles/138285838/ghosts-of-the-eto-american-tactical-deception-units-in-the-european-theater-1944

[identity profile] adammaker.livejournal.com 2012-11-17 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Not out yet, but I want to go see this.
http://www.ghostarmy.org/

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-17 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, awesome! It says "coming to PBS," but you mention going to see it. Will it also have a limited release in theaters?

[identity profile] orrin.livejournal.com 2012-11-15 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I was aware of this, but had somehow forgotten! I had also somehow forgotten that amazing badge, which is the most amazing and which I need one of to sew onto my trenchcoat everything!
Edited 2012-11-15 17:13 (UTC)

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-15 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
For real. That badge is THE BOMB. I want it on my everything, too.

[identity profile] saffronhare.livejournal.com 2012-11-15 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
My dad's a military historian. Gotta ask him about this!

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-15 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Lemme know what you find!

[identity profile] saffronhare.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Here's what he said: "Yes I did know about them. I had a whole lesson about them for my military history class. Pretty neat, huh. Can you imagine washing all those sheets?"

It look me a whole ten-count to figure out he was talking about the ghost outfit. My father is clearly 10x cooler than I am.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Ha ha ha! If that's your dad's sense of humor, I think we might get along well.

[identity profile] kira-snugz.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
i had not seen the facebook wwii.

loved the raf and the luftwaffe conversation.


there are pictures of some of the things that unit created floating around out there. I think cracked has mentioned the unit a couple times in various articles. They were very very good at what they did.

random family history - my grandpa ran into that unit... god knows where, but in europe during the war, he left it vague when he wrote it down just in case and never out and out names the unit, but he got to see them building an army out of nowhere and nothing. Said it was the most amazing bit of building he had ever seen, and only wrote about it 20 years later. My dad put all the pieces together last year after he got his hands on my grandpas military records and his full autobiography.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
That. Is. Awesome!!!!

[identity profile] carmy-w.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
This sort of reminds me of my great-uncle, who was stationed in the navy on one of the floating dry docks. Even now, you can hardly find any published information on them, but my second cousin has a book that was a limited publish run of 300 or so copies. I would absolutely LOVE to get my hands on a copy of it.

Those things were COOL. They were the reason why the US Navy took the Pacific. Shoot hell out of our ships, go on. But if they're still floating, we come, pick them up, fix them while transporting them to the next battle zone, and here they are, magically back in action! They were the biggest reason why the USS Enterprise earned it's nickname.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
They were the biggest reason why the USS Enterprise earned it's nickname.

I'm...just going to assume you're not talking about Star Trek here, which means I have no idea what you're talking about.

Image

[identity profile] carmy-w.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, no! The Enterprise was one of the first aircraft carriers built in the US! The Japanese announced they had sunk it three times during WWII, and it just kept. coming. BACK.

Hence the nickname-The Grey Ghost.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(CV-6)

Hope that link works; it pasted funky, so I fixed the text.
But if you google it, it will pop up!
Edited 2012-11-16 18:04 (UTC)

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

[identity profile] grnvixen.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't remember that there was a unit specifically for this sort of thing but there was a MASSIVE deception of fake troups, tanks, etc. setup for D-Day. It was obivous the Allies were going to invade, but where. The deception was successfull enough that even after our guys were hitting the beaches in Normandy enough of Hitler's general staff believed it was a feint and the real invasion was still coming somewhere else so at least a battalion (my memory is fuzzy there, might have been more) was kept out of Normandy for a critical few days. I think it was the OSS tho that floated the body with fake ID and locked briefcase with misinformation to further confuse the issue.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
See, that story just makes me want that AU story EVEN MORE.

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't realize that was it's own division! And with the awesomest patch ever! Also, what is AU?

The Facebook WWII is fabu!

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
AU = Alternate Universe

I'm seriously thinking of recreating that patch. If I do, you and [livejournal.com profile] orrin each get one, too.

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny, SF scholars don't use that acronym!

Hooray, I get a patch of awesome!

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I bet the SF scholars who read slash use it.

[identity profile] carmy-w.livejournal.com 2012-11-16 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw this too! AWESOME!
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[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2012-11-17 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, awesome! It says "coming to PBS," but you mention going to see it. Will it also have a limited release in theaters?