Another month

[clevermanka]

I'm going spending another month on the AIP. Not only for all the reasons I talked about yesterday, but because I'm going to start low-level resistance training this weekend. I want a full month of monitoring my body changes from that (good or bad) before I start introducing foods. If I have an autoimmune flare-up (swelling, aches, fatigue), I need to know it's movement-related, not food-related. If I'm making two changes within two weeks of each other, there's no way to guarantee I'll be able to tell the difference. In fact, it's highly unlikely I'll be able to tell the difference.

Considering the emotional/psychological motivations to extend the experiment and the practical reasons, there's absolutely no reason not to extend it another month.

Kiva cautioned against going too long on the experiment (nine months or more) because reintroductions after an extended period of time can be traumatic. For example, after a year of eating raw food, an acquaintance of mine has now severe stomach upset when she eats cooked food, and if she eats fish more than once a week she gets terrible skin break-outs. She's pretty much resolved to just not eating cooked food or fish for the rest of her life. Having that level of problem with eating sweet potatoes and spices sounds like whole lot of not fun, so I'm looking at the month of July as the latest I'll wait before starting reintroductions. Of course, if it turns out my body's just too sensitive to those things, that's one thing. But I don't want to set myself up to fail just because was too scared or lazy to start the reintroduction process.

GOD DAMN this shit is taking a lot of my mental energy.

Comments

[shrijani.livejournal.com]

That is a most sensible approach. May I ask what foods you do not anticipate ever reintroducing? Or are sweet potatoes and seed spices the only ones you are going to bring back?

[clevermanka.livejournal.com]

I probably won't eat nuts again in any volume. I might occasionally add some chopped pistachios to my carrot salad, or a spoonful of almond butter to thicken a curry. But my days of using a handful of nuts as a snack are over.

Pretty much my snacking days are over. These days if I'm not hungry enough to eat a meal, I don't eat. So why bother with nuts?

Everything else, though, I will at least attempt to reincorporate: nightshades, potatoes, seed spices, and wine. Oh, and duck eggs for making mayo. The two remaining things on the list (http://www.thepaleomom.com/2012/05/modifying-paleo-for-autoimmune.html) are things I don't eat anyway--gluten cross-reactive foods (all grains) and NSAIDs.

[redheadfae.livejournal.com]

I'm so glad you have Kiva to bounce this information off. It makes sense to me, since not eating meat means losing the enzymes to digest it properly for some time, etc.

I'm taking some enzymes before each meal now and my discomfort bloating seems to be subsiding somewhat.
Dare I be hopeful? :) I do, I do.

[clevermanka.livejournal.com]

I've been taking Digest Gold (http://www.enzymedica.com/store/Digest-Gold) with every meal for about six months and I've been very happy with it.

[redheadfae.livejournal.com]

I've been taking , and was looking for something less pricey, because ouch!
But now I think I'll stick with it. (http://www.gardenoflife.com/Products-for-Life/Digestive-Health/%E2%84%A6-Zyme-ULTRA.aspx)

[alryssa.livejournal.com]

Hell, bb, just READING about this process is exhausting. I can't imagine.

[clevermanka.livejournal.com]

I can't say I wouldn't wish this sort of thing on anyone, but I will say the list of people I'd curse with it is very, very short.

[anomali.livejournal.com]

My list is not that short: think KS state gov....

I have been reading about nightshades (tobacco, potatoes, tomatoes, eggplants, sweet and hot peppers, ground cherries, tomatillos and tamarillos, garden huckleberry and naranjillas, pepinos and pimentos), and potatoes for everyone who is unsure) and it seems that, thankfully, very few people are sensitive to the toxin solanine, unless it is in large amounts.

I hope that none of us are among this unfortunate group! I really, really do! Like most Czech sorts, paprika is like salt and pepper to me.... :(

I understand the egg issue (Omega 6 fatty acid issues and sensitivity, right?) but I am unclear on the issues with sweet potatoes or nuts/seeds. I am curious as to why these are these problematic. (I will be beginning my own anti-inflammatory diet in April, so it is not just idle curiosity.)

[clevermanka.livejournal.com]

TBH, I don't care about the whys and wherefores anymore. I'm tired. I just want someone to tell me what to do. So if I hear something that comes recommended by someone I know and trust (like this AIP diet experiment, which I heard from the fantastic Melissa Joulwan (http://www.theclothesmakethegirl.com/), whom I've known for years), I'll try it. I believe some of the science/reasoning is outlined on the AIP resource pages (http://www.thepaleomom.com/the-autoimmune-protocol-aip) if you want to check those out.

[anomali.livejournal.com]

I hear ya! Back in 2006, after two surgeries, three biopsies, countless scans of one or another kind, and months of PT, that is exactly how I felt. Then I felt totally let down and avoided all docs except my GP and gyn for the next seven years. I seem to have gotten my 2nd, or is it 22nd wind recently, in terms of feeling the drive to learn everything I can and figure this shit out. I know you've been here, too.

It will certainly check out the AIP resource pages. Thanks!

[zitronenhai.livejournal.com]

That is a most sensible approach. May I ask what foods you do not anticipate ever reintroducing? Or are sweet potatoes and seed spices the only ones you are going to bring back?

[clevermanka.livejournal.com]

I probably won't eat nuts again in any volume. I might occasionally add some chopped pistachios to my carrot salad, or a spoonful of almond butter to thicken a curry. But my days of using a handful of nuts as a snack are over.

Pretty much my snacking days are over. These days if I'm not hungry enough to eat a meal, I don't eat. So why bother with nuts?

Everything else, though, I will at least attempt to reincorporate: nightshades, potatoes, seed spices, and wine. Oh, and duck eggs for making mayo. The two remaining things on the list (http://www.thepaleomom.com/2012/05/modifying-paleo-for-autoimmune.html) are things I don't eat anyway--gluten cross-reactive foods (all grains) and NSAIDs.

[redheadfae.livejournal.com]

I'm so glad you have Kiva to bounce this information off. It makes sense to me, since not eating meat means losing the enzymes to digest it properly for some time, etc.

I'm taking some enzymes before each meal now and my discomfort bloating seems to be subsiding somewhat.
Dare I be hopeful? :) I do, I do.

[clevermanka.livejournal.com]

I've been taking Digest Gold (http://www.enzymedica.com/store/Digest-Gold) with every meal for about six months and I've been very happy with it.

[redheadfae.livejournal.com]

I've been taking , and was looking for something less pricey, because ouch!
But now I think I'll stick with it. (http://www.gardenoflife.com/Products-for-Life/Digestive-Health/%E2%84%A6-Zyme-ULTRA.aspx)

[alryssa.livejournal.com]

Hell, bb, just READING about this process is exhausting. I can't imagine.

[clevermanka.livejournal.com]

I can't say I wouldn't wish this sort of thing on anyone, but I will say the list of people I'd curse with it is very, very short.

[anomali.livejournal.com]

My list is not that short: think KS state gov....

I have been reading about nightshades (tobacco, potatoes, tomatoes, eggplants, sweet and hot peppers, ground cherries, tomatillos and tamarillos, garden huckleberry and naranjillas, pepinos and pimentos), and potatoes for everyone who is unsure) and it seems that, thankfully, very few people are sensitive to the toxin solanine, unless it is in large amounts.

I hope that none of us are among this unfortunate group! I really, really do! Like most Czech sorts, paprika is like salt and pepper to me.... :(

I understand the egg issue (Omega 6 fatty acid issues and sensitivity, right?) but I am unclear on the issues with sweet potatoes or nuts/seeds. I am curious as to why these are these problematic. (I will be beginning my own anti-inflammatory diet in April, so it is not just idle curiosity.)

[clevermanka.livejournal.com]

TBH, I don't care about the whys and wherefores anymore. I'm tired. I just want someone to tell me what to do. So if I hear something that comes recommended by someone I know and trust (like this AIP diet experiment, which I heard from the fantastic Melissa Joulwan (http://www.theclothesmakethegirl.com/), whom I've known for years), I'll try it. I believe some of the science/reasoning is outlined on the AIP resource pages (http://www.thepaleomom.com/the-autoimmune-protocol-aip) if you want to check those out.

[anomali.livejournal.com]

I hear ya! Back in 2006, after two surgeries, three biopsies, countless scans of one or another kind, and months of PT, that is exactly how I felt. Then I felt totally let down and avoided all docs except my GP and gyn for the next seven years. I seem to have gotten my 2nd, or is it 22nd wind recently, in terms of feeling the drive to learn everything I can and figure this shit out. I know you've been here, too.

It will certainly check out the AIP resource pages. Thanks!