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clevermanka ([personal profile] clevermanka) wrote2008-03-14 01:25 pm
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Grow up, already

From [livejournal.com profile] rjlippincott, a FOF [livejournal.com profile] adammaker, Glenn Beck: Too bad, Michigan and Florida.

When this story was getting coverage on NPR last week, I told [livejournal.com profile] mckitterick that I was disgusted (but alas not surprised) at the attitude of Florida's governor and someone else (a woman, can't remember who, maybe the head of the Democratic Party in Florida?). The woman actually used the phrase "civil disobedience" to describe the actions of the states who held their primaries in violation of party rules.

Guess what, chicky? It's not civil disobedience when you break the rules of an organization that you voluntarily joined. Don't you dare compare your petty little grab at the limelight to Alabama sit-ins or poll-crashing suffragettes. Just...don't. It makes you and your petulant cry-baby attitude that much more repulsive.

I'm not the only person in my generation who is horrified at herself for vocalizing the phrase "kids these days." And the "kids these days" includes a lot more than just kids. The problem's not loud music, promiscuity, binge drinking, recreational drug use--gods, I wish! No, it's so very much worse. It's an epidemic of selfish narrow-mindedness that doesn't show any sign of stopping soon. Personal responsibility is at an all-time low and the idea of individual integrity is so far gone I can't even see it from here.

Anyone got suggestions for how to get an entire nation on the track to maturity? I got nothin'.

[identity profile] harmfulguy.livejournal.com 2008-03-14 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
True "civil disobedience" also implies that you're willing to face the consequences of your actions in order to make your larger point.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2008-03-14 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
HA! Excellent point. Thank you.

[identity profile] adammaker.livejournal.com 2008-03-14 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
People who want to twist it both ways and never be called on it are a plague upon the land.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2008-03-14 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Locusts and Frogs: 10 zillion

Mature, reasonable adults: zip

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_mac_/ 2008-03-14 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Personal responsibility is at an all-time low

I agree!

Anyone got suggestions for how to get an entire nation on the track to maturity? I got nothin'.

I think they all need to be put in time-out.
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[identity profile] triadruid.livejournal.com 2008-03-14 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Spankings for everybody!

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2008-03-14 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
You wish.
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[identity profile] theslice.livejournal.com 2008-03-14 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I do feel sorry for the citizenry of those states as in both cases, the measure was made by party leaders and presented to the state legislature for a vote. Constituents really didn't have a say in that decision and because of it, they get no say in the primary. I think, however, they will be thinking clearly to vote OUT their party apparachiks who did this to them.

[identity profile] tessagratton.livejournal.com 2008-03-16 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
People in FL and MI who are members of the Democratic Party have every right to be pissy. They are the ones who got screwed over by the state legislature. But you know what? Voting in a primary isn't a right. It's a freaking privilege that you get by joining the DNP. Nobody's being disenfranchised - because there's no civil rights or any rights at stake. An organization made rules, and two branches of that organization broke the rules - but it's a PRIVATE ORGANIZATION. NOT PUBLIC.

That's what torcs me off. That people don't understand that nobody has the right to vote in a primary except who the party says. There ain't anything in the freaking constitution about primaries. Period.

[identity profile] mckitterick.livejournal.com 2008-03-16 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Absolutely. In fact, it's really the DNC leadership in those states that screwed their memberships; leaders can't "civil disobedience" the rights away from their members. Leaders affecting the rights of those they lead... hmm, that smacks of something else....

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2008-03-16 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. See listing under "Bastards, all of them."