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clevermanka) wrote2010-10-01 09:02 am
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Oh my stockings and garters
When I was a pre-teen, my mother tried to teach me how to put on my own tights. This was the way-early 80s, and heavy cable-knit cotton tights were popular and easily-found for little girls who liked to wear skirts in the winter months. My childhood body was shaped something like a potato, so skirts were a year-round necessity. Despite my mother's patient instruction, I still wound up with the cable pattern wonky, the waistband twisted out of shape, and the crotch somewhere around mid-thigh. By my teens, I'd graduated to Actual Pantyhose, and I never got more than three wearings out of a pair before I'd put a finger through the panty top or somewhere in the thigh.
Shortly before she died, my grandmother took me aside and said "Why don't you buy a garter belt and some stockings. They're easier. I never liked pantyhose, either." This, along, with her wedding ring and KitchenAid mixer, I count among her final and most precious gifts to me. I should note, this was a woman who didn't like underwear in general.
So, at the tender age of fifteen, I began my love affair with stockings and garter belts as a practical alternative to pantyhose. I didn't think of them as terribly sexy. They were simply a welcome relief to my struggles with that hated pantyhose waistband. Any prurient appeal took a backseat. A way back seat. Like the back-facing seat of an old station wagon back seat.
I remember the first time I put them on (for church!). I got them on perfectly (in short time, I would graduate to seamed hose with nary a crooked line), clipped them, and then paused. I put on my robe and headed out to the kitchen, where grandma sat with her coffee. "How do I go to the bathroom?" I asked. She didn't even look up from her newspaper. "If you're wearing shorts, they go on the outside."
After that, the only thing I didn't understand was why pantyhose had become so popular. The only use for them I could see was for wearing under miniskirts. I knew for darn sure that 90% of the women I saw wearing hosiery under their knee-length or longer skirts were not wearing stockings. I just couldn't understand why.
Now I know. Probably most of them didn't grow up with my grandma. Poor things.
Note: If you are interested in purchasing a practical garterbelt, not some silly frilly thing that wouldn't hold up a piece of paper much less a stocking, but don't know where to start looking, please see my suggestions in a comment to
pointoforigin about garter belt styles.
Shortly before she died, my grandmother took me aside and said "Why don't you buy a garter belt and some stockings. They're easier. I never liked pantyhose, either." This, along, with her wedding ring and KitchenAid mixer, I count among her final and most precious gifts to me. I should note, this was a woman who didn't like underwear in general.
So, at the tender age of fifteen, I began my love affair with stockings and garter belts as a practical alternative to pantyhose. I didn't think of them as terribly sexy. They were simply a welcome relief to my struggles with that hated pantyhose waistband. Any prurient appeal took a backseat. A way back seat. Like the back-facing seat of an old station wagon back seat.
I remember the first time I put them on (for church!). I got them on perfectly (in short time, I would graduate to seamed hose with nary a crooked line), clipped them, and then paused. I put on my robe and headed out to the kitchen, where grandma sat with her coffee. "How do I go to the bathroom?" I asked. She didn't even look up from her newspaper. "If you're wearing shorts, they go on the outside."
After that, the only thing I didn't understand was why pantyhose had become so popular. The only use for them I could see was for wearing under miniskirts. I knew for darn sure that 90% of the women I saw wearing hosiery under their knee-length or longer skirts were not wearing stockings. I just couldn't understand why.
Now I know. Probably most of them didn't grow up with my grandma. Poor things.
Note: If you are interested in purchasing a practical garterbelt, not some silly frilly thing that wouldn't hold up a piece of paper much less a stocking, but don't know where to start looking, please see my suggestions in a comment to
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Solution? Bloomers! =D
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This is a great entry!
I need to renew my affair with garter belts.. or as we called them in England, "suspenders". I might wear more skirts this winter. Hmmm. Maybe I need to get with you on tips for finding good ones.
And another great thing about stockings.. a hole in one of them isn't a complete toss away.
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God, yes! How did I forget to mention that? Thank you for piping up!
I'm seriously considering ordering one of the examples I linked in that comment. They've got some cute knee-high socks, too... Poke around that site and if there's something you're interested in, I'm happy to split shipping.
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I like that shorty one as well.
But damn, only in white.. must get myself a new dunk tub for dyeing.
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ROFL! Ok, this is another instance of the differences between English and American that never fails to delight and amuse me.
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I may have to try one. I hate hose.
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Shifted to garterbelts for a long time. They are SO FREAKING AWESOME!
They go on, fit, and stay where they should!
I discovered the practical aspect of using the restroom on my own.
I love your Grandmother! I also hate most underwear. lol.
Haven't needed/wanted to wear hose in years. If I ever did, it would be the garter variety!
So I will check your link... 'cause I no longer know where to buy them.
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<3
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You know, it NEVER occurred to me to put on underwear over the garter belt. That actually resolves *both* my issues, I think, because the underwear give a little added support (and the fact that I've lost some waist fluffiness will help quite a bit too, and that my prior attempt was in fact a frilly thing that wouldn't hold up a piece of paper and now I know better).
I hate pantyhose because they take 'chafing' to a whole new level of "Oh god, oh god, why did I add SANDPAPER to the equation?" but had come more to peace with them since the weight loss decreased chafing issues overall, and will probably now make the shift completely to garters instead, except for my two short skirts, one of which I can wear with cute knee-highs anyway. You've totally revolutionized my thinking on garter belts with the simple phrase "hey, panties on the OUTSIDE," and it feels very silly not to have thought of that when I was struggling with it fifteen years ago. Thank you so much!
Much love,
Rowan
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My very first job was a salesclerk at the lingerie counter of a family-owned department store. Something of that desire to help people be happy with their underwear has stuck with me through the years. I'm so pleased to be able to help you, too!
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OMG I LOVE THIS!
And am now fantasizing about wearing garter belts with my Bloomers!!!!
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Last winter, walking to work, the only part of me that got chilled was the three inches of thigh between the top of my stocking and my panty line. The fact that it took me nearly a full year to solve this problem is no small embarrassment.
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I have come to adore Secrets In Lace (http://www.secretsinlace.com/category/Garter_Belts) for serious garter belts (by that I mean 6 garters, metal clasps, with strong, proper fitting belts, with more than just 2 or 3 hooks in the back), which also happen to be quite pretty, in a number of instances.
Pricey, but they are the seriously real thing.
Secrets in Lace also sells some fabulous open bottom girdles (http://www.secretsinlace.com/category/Girdles). And of course, actual stockings (http://www.secretsinlace.com/category/Stockings)...it's becoming harder to find decent actual stockings, as so many companies just want to sell thigh highs, which are so not the same thing (and I've never really known anyone they actually work on).
But then, I'd be a sucker for any place that sells a good bullet bra (http://www.secretsinlace.com/category/Bullet_Bras), ya know?
D.
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and I'd CRY if I tore a hole in a 10 clam stocking.
But oh sadness... the usual crappy sizes in bras, and DD being the largest cup! WAAAAHHHHH.
We need to start a new biz ladies,.. vintage bras with real sizing.. who can write the business proposal? *grin*
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i am not a big fan of underwear, if i am wearing jeans i don't wear knickers, but i have very soft waistbanded knickers for wearing with skirts. but i rarely wear tights, either, i rarely wear skirts now, and i the tights i do wear are the only kind i can, because of being tall - woolfords, very expensive but they last forever, matte black LONG tights. soft and no strangulation. i can never buy medium/ 'one size' tights, because i get that thing of the crotch hanging down, and it makes me feel like i peed myself.
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Never a good feeling.
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I have the same tights issues, I can't fit properly into any of the "size ranges'.
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http://www.wolfordshop.co.uk/Legwear/cp500004950/cl1/vt01/
nothing NOTHING is cheap. but they do 'long'. i have been wearing basic black ones for donkey's years http://www.wolfordshop.co.uk/Cotton-Velvet/cp500004959/si500448817/cl2/vt01/
they remain soft after washing, unlike other brands, and, like i say, no pissy knicker sensation from them crawling down.
the fancy ones are fun, though probably not to be bought in quantity unless you are a millionaire or a shopping addict who is impervious to cost.
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I've gotten prettier ones over the years, and got to wear an awesome vintage-styled set for my living history job with the Park Service a few years ago. And although I don't wear stockings super-often (I'm not much of a skirt gal), I definitely have not purchased one pair of pantyhose since, and wouldn't. Ever.
/Cool story, bro
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Too true, too true. Also with the underwear-on-the-outside trick. I had to figure that one out on my own (wearing them on the sly and all), but I always find it sort of astounding that when I try to share this tip with other friends who are trying out stockings and garters (on a lark, rather than out of serious consideration for switching, usually), they just think I'm crazy. I guess it's been so inculcated in recent generations of women that underwear is always the closest garment to your body, underneath everything else, that even if putting a garter belt underneath doesn't affect the function of underwear, they just can't conceive of doing so. And then they wonder why garters are so "inconvenient"!
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