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clevermanka ([personal profile] clevermanka) wrote2014-09-03 11:18 am
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I'll show you "too punitive," you douchefuckers

This is not the news story I wanted to see this morning, but I saw it anyway. Good timing, though. I have to attend a Violence In The Workplace seminar this afternoon and I am so bringing this up. Here is my prepared statement/comment/question because I know I'm going to be too angry to wing it:

While it’s important to talk about how we can best stay safe in the event of a campus shooter or other highly public but realistically rare violent occurrence, how does KU intend to address the tragically common and shamefully unpublicized violence committed against rape victims on and near campus? I am referring to the story that came out in the Huffington Post this week, regarding the student who was disciplined for a rape charge by merely being put on probation, entered into counseling, banned from university housing and made to write a reflection paper. If the university refuses to call rape by its name and instead uses the term “nonconsensual sex,” and if the university considers community service “too punitive” for a physical and psychological violation of another human being, how am I supposed to feel safe on this campus?


[identity profile] msmitti.livejournal.com 2014-09-03 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been chewing on nails since I read that article. Please post about how the session goes this afternoon. Since this was so entirely swept under the rug, I want to know how they respond.

Also, thank you for bringing it up at the session. I'd be interested to know if anyone else does or if this is just not seen as a safety issue (by attendees and administrators alike).

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-09-03 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh. So I did not bring it up at the session because they had every technology problem imaginable and we started more than ten minutes late and the guy leading it had to do stuff out of order and it was total chaos and I knew that bringing it up at that point would have zero impact because people just wanted to get the hell out of there the instant he was done talking.

So I'm gonna redraft my wording and send it as a letter to the editor of the Lawrence Journal-World.

[identity profile] thetimesink.livejournal.com 2014-09-03 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Regroup, rearm, reappear...

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-09-03 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. I'm a firm believer in picking my battles and also the grounds on which they're fought.

[identity profile] mundungus42.livejournal.com 2014-09-03 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
That's infuriating. I'm so glad you're going to write about it, because that is some heinous shit right there. And you just know people are going to be all like "he shouldn't have his life ruined by this..." and FFS what about the girl he raped? KU FAIL.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-09-03 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Total KU fail. And I am QUITE PLEASED to hear that KU is listed among the universities being called on the carpet for sweeping this sort of thing under the rug.

GOOD. Good.

[identity profile] sherwood21.livejournal.com 2014-09-04 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I am SO GLAD that I am not in any way involved with KU's jurisdiction because of shit like this.

I did see this article about affirmative consent (http://www.autostraddle.com/california-passes-affirmative-consent-bill-rape-apologists-retreat-into-fantasy-252946/) passing in California, which hopefully will pass and have a positive effect.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-09-04 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I just signed up to be on the Title IX roundtable panel discussions on campus. RAWR.

[identity profile] sherwood21.livejournal.com 2014-09-04 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
So awesome!! (Found another article on affirmative consent at UC Berkeley (http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/03/living/affirmative-consent-school-policy/index.html?hpt=hp_t4) today too.)

[identity profile] chronovore.livejournal.com 2014-09-04 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
This is a horrible situation, and I think it's made less actionable by this foolish decision: "Douglas County District Attorney Charles Branson decided by the end of October 2013 not to press charges, despite the man's confession, because there was a less than 1 percent chance a jury would convict, according to the woman's family."

...I'm baffled by this. How can there be a "less than 1 percent chance" of conviction when the aggressor has confessed? How does that work?

It seems to me that the school is not necessarily in a place to mete out justice, but the actual JUSTICE SYSTEM is, and it has chosen not to, for some reason.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-09-04 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I am so furious at Charles Branson I can't even tell you. I was in school with him from 6th grade until HS graduation and now I want to just punch him in his stupid face.

[identity profile] pointoforigin.livejournal.com 2014-09-04 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Oh so MUCH wrong my head is about to explode. Yes, douchebuckets, "nonconsensual sex" IS rape. Also, perpetuating the idiotic assertion popularized by such as R*sh L*mb**gh during the Sandra Fluke controversy: that women take a birth control pill when they're about to have sex. Total non-comprehension of how a pill prescription works over time.

One thing I agree about: community service is too punitive. It is punitive to the community. Why should any community endeavor be punished by having to put up with a whiny rapist hanging around? How is that justice to other women who are involved in community activity in good faith and should not be forced to associate with a known rapist?

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-09-04 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
YES YES YES ALL OF THIS YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.