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clevermanka ([personal profile] clevermanka) wrote2014-08-21 11:36 am

Walk the talk

Got to kick another ignorant asshat to the curb on FB yesterday. Yay. So far, everyone whining about how I don't give men/cops/oppressors a fair shake and listen to their side of the story have all been white men. This is my surprised face.



Here are some of my favorites of his comments:

"Is it acceptable to call out anti-white racism too? Or is it strictly anti-black racism that needs attention?"



"Perhaps I am too far removed from the norm to see that racism and misogyny are encouraged...Maybe we should aim to have everyone say 'I'm not like that' and have it be true. Because there are, in fact, people who are not like that."



"...the leap to the argument that "(The Black Man) Has no rights which the white man is bound to respect." Is, thus far unsupported."



"Based on personal observation, I see far more prejudice and discrimination directed towards whites and americans, preemptively, than I do the other way around."



After nearly three days of this bullshit (no kidding--he kept this up for three goddamned days), and after he posted a "think of the poor cops" comment, I replied:

"X, you have crossed a line. You posted a "but please think of the cops" comment RIGHT UNDER someone who had a traumatic experience with police brutality. I am all for fair conversation, but you continue to fail to acknowledge (among other things) the fact that good cops are in the EXTREME minority and they are COMPLETELY failing to condemn the behavior of their comrades. Please feel free to not comment here anymore. Also feel free to chastise me for being closed-minded or participating in censorship. But the first amendment only protects you from the government telling you that you can't say something. It doesn't protect you from my telling you that you're acting like a jerk and to stop saying hurtful things in my presence. Also feel free to think less of me for not being open-minded to other points of view. That's fine. I cannot and will not engage in a friendly manner with someone who has such a disparate view on basic human rights. Don't bother responding. Please. Don't bother."

And then his truly epic flounce:

"No bother, but you've just shown why you are unlikely to succeed in affecting any positive change. You have my sympathy."



So that's one thing FB is good for. Helps me weed out the fucking assholes. Unfortunately, it also does nasty things to my blood pressure. I've been short-tempered and nasty lately. Sorry, [livejournal.com profile] mckitterick. I need to incorporate ways to remain engaged in politics and social change without it taking such a toll on my mental health. I tell people that in order to care for others we must first care for ourselves. Time to apply that to my own life.
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[identity profile] ms-danson.livejournal.com 2014-08-21 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
He lasted 3 days saying that shit?

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-08-21 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, he started his shit on Tuesday, and finally flounced off this morning. So...sorta three days? Two and a half I guess.

Two and a half days despite numerous people offering links, articles, statistics, personal experience, etc. It was amazing. And he actually said "I resent being called willfully ignorant."

What a fucking douchebag.

[identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com 2014-08-21 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
i reallllllllllllly wanted to give him the "i'm sorry about your small penis" send-off, but, really, your house, you get to have the fun. :-)

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-08-21 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
His huffy little bit about me being "unlikely to succeed in affecting any positive change" legit made me snort out loud.

[identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com 2014-08-21 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
"being rid of your ignorant, toxic ass is a positive change in my life. kthxbye!"

[identity profile] the-lucky-nun.livejournal.com 2014-08-25 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
heehee!

[identity profile] msmitti.livejournal.com 2014-08-21 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
"I resent being called willfully ignorant."

wha?!!! It sounds like he is trying *really* hard to remain so. Like, *really* hard.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-08-21 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
It's REALLY HARD to be a white man in today's society, you know? I mean, just EVERYONE PICKS ON THEM and WHY CAN'T WE JUST ALL BE NICE TO EACH OTHER?

[identity profile] msmitti.livejournal.com 2014-08-21 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
fuck all. this is why I cannot engage in this stuff. people make me crazy and I don't know how to respond to it.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-08-21 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure if it's a talent or a skill, but I'm grateful to have it, along with a complete disregard for the opinions of assholes. Those guys no longer like me personally? Good.

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[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-08-23 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
A+ gif usage, bb.

[identity profile] mundungus42.livejournal.com 2014-08-21 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
What a self-important, clueless, so-ignorant-he-doesn't-know-the-meaning-of-intellectual-dishonesty blowhard! Good for you to kicking him to the curb. As I hail from a rural area, I have people like this as Facebook friends, and we remain friends as long as we can remain civil at the rare times we brush on controversial topics.

Though friends of friends aren't always so polite- one guy, an NRA member (paint me surprised), attacked me when I pointed out the reporting flaws in a piece our mutual friend had posted and took issue with my (I thought) noncontroversial statement that of COURSE modern mass shootings involve guns. Multiple people I don't know sprang to my defense, but he kept pushing it, saying I was being deliberately provocative, so it was my fault he misread my original complaint. I mocked him with firearm puns.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-08-21 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Good for you to kicking him to the curb

Whee! Thank you! My favorite part about when this stuff happens (I've kicked three men off my FB at various points) is that they're always all "I feel sorry for you" and "it must be hard to be like you" or "you're limiting yourself by closing yourself off from differing opinions." And I'm just like seriously? You think I'm going to miss your company? You think my life is somehow made lesser from not dealing with your own specific brand of bigotry?

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I mocked him with firearm puns.

OMG I love mocking people SO MUCH and I get to do it SO RARELY. Doesn't it just feel so good? Mmmmmmm. I love it when people underestimate just how few fucks I give about their bigoted opinions of me.
Edited 2014-08-21 18:07 (UTC)

[identity profile] shanmonster.livejournal.com 2014-08-21 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
A German word springs to mind: das Backpfeifengesicht.

[identity profile] redheadfae.livejournal.com 2014-08-22 12:40 am (UTC)(link)

Oh how I miss being on the front lines of these posts.. but dear lawd, how I love coming here later and seeing the fine opinions posted by our mutual and your other friends.

It's good to see the asshats fall away.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-08-22 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha ha ha ha ha! Yes, you're definitely getting the better side of the deal.

[identity profile] redheadfae.livejournal.com 2014-08-22 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm all like.. you guys:

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[identity profile] pointoforigin.livejournal.com 2014-08-22 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Oh BLAH BLAH BLAH. I admire you tremendously for wading through so much pointless verbiage. But I'm sorry you had to spend one minute of your precious life on it. I love your Surprised Face, btw. This is why I quit participating in a group blog I was on that dealt with political and social commentary. I decided my life was too short to spend so much of it in such bad company. If picking off trolls could be a video game, it might be worth it.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-08-22 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
If picking off trolls could be a video game, it might be worth it.

It is. It's called Facebook.

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[identity profile] 1-rhiannon-1.livejournal.com 2014-08-22 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a few people on my FB that I've had to unfollow for posts that they've made lately. Rather than unfriend, I use a filter to avoid drama because of them are RL people and damn but I can't handle that much drama.

ways to remain engaged in politics and social change without it taking such a toll on my mental health.

And there lies the trick. I've never been able to come up with a way to do it, so I stay out of political/social issues on any sort of online forum at all. It's all I can do for my sanity's sake.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-08-22 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I have one person I've unfollowed instead of unfriended because I believe he is at heart a good person. He's just uncomprehending of the fact that sometimes there are not two sides to every story.

The rest of them can fuck right the fuck off. These are all people I know in Real Life, but it hasn't been dramatic. They act like asshats, I cut them out of my life. No drama on my end! =D

[identity profile] the-themiscyran.livejournal.com 2014-08-27 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I am a fan of this policy. Though I might have a slightly higher ratio of "good but clueless" people that I don't follow there.

[identity profile] siro-gravity.livejournal.com 2014-08-24 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Congrats for kicking the idiot!
I solved the FB problem by leaving the whole platform. I don't have time for that much asshattery.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-08-24 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I've considered leaving a couple times, but I don't have the same audience here. Posting political and social justice stuff for the folks on my LJ is mostly just preaching to the choir. It does take a lot of my time and energy, though.

[identity profile] poincaraux.livejournal.com 2014-08-25 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Related: a friend bought http://smile.amazon.com/Men-Explain-Things-Rebecca-Solnit/dp/1608463869/ref=smi_www_rcolv2_go_smi?_encoding=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0 recently, and subsequently read large portions of the first two chapters out loud.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-08-25 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
PUTTING THIS ON MY WISHLIST NOW.

[identity profile] the-themiscyran.livejournal.com 2014-08-27 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Good Grief. Some people just refuse to take off their blinders. Sigh. Your gifs sum up my expressions over the last few weeks nicely. And I think you have done an excellent job on FB with the informative posts. I applaud your efforts. Thank you.

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2014-08-27 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you. It's good to know the posts are appreciated.